: The thing is although some alphabets didn't/don't have
: the letter "w" the languages still had/have
: the W sound using "ue" instead. Then along
: came the map makers who were writing in Latin or Greek
: and latterly English, and wrote down what they thought
: the locals were saying, and quite often got a
: completely different meaning.
: David Caldwell, Manitoba and Ayrshire.

I agree David and I am sure that is where Caudle came from and logically Calduel as well. Caddel is another possible corruption. Another meaning Calder-dale -> Cald-dell -> Cald-uell -> Cald-well. Plenty of River Calder's to source the name from and most -dell names can be sourced to a river valley from Yorkshire through Cumbria northwards.

Glad to see we are hearing form you a bit more - I need you to be fired up

I have downloaded a heap of birth certificates for my GGrandfather Joseph's family to try and find out where he was living at various times he and his wife had 15 births of whom 13 survived to maturity. It gives a good guide to where they were at the given times and what his occupation was. A brother died at 38 from miner's disease and their father was 42 when he died form cause unknown (as yet) - possibly the same thing. I imagine that Joseph would have been pretty keen to get out of the pits.

In any case his father died when he was 8 and if he went to the pits at 12 as was the routine in those days he would have been a coalminer for 24or 25 years. they were living at "Inchgotrick" and I suppose this was "Wee Inchgotrick" as you have advised. He go out of mining to be a "carter for a bottling firm" and later he was shown as a "ginger beer bottler" and then the more grandiloquent "Aerated Water Manufacturer" in 1887 when my grandfather the 14th born and 13th and last to reach maturity was born. By this stage they were living in Academy Street Riccarton - by accounts it was a very small house.

Our family "remembrance" is that he was a school headmaster somewhere in his career but there is nothing relating to that on any of the multiple birth certificates obtained.

I will post the details of the certificates on to my blogsite.

Do you have any recollection from your family stories of the Lemonade Caldwell's ever manufacturing while they were at Inchgotrick? There is no doubt that Joseph was first in the occupation of "carter for a bottling company" whilst still at Inchgotrick but it seems that he was carting for someone else.

In any case they suddenly seemed to have come good in the world around 1887. A picture of the family on my website circa 1898 or 1899 shows a large family looking quite grand. By this stage they were firmly established at Riverbank House in Greenholm Street.

Tom