CaldwellGenealogy.com Discussion ForumThomas Colville le Scot
By:Tom Caldwell
Date: 12:36 2/8/06 I have always wondered whether this guy was out proto-Caldwell. Reference: The Acts of William I, King of Scots 1165-1214
Thomas de Colville was arrested in May, 1210, charged with treason, and imprisoned in Edinburgh castle; he ransomed himself on 30 November ( Chron. Melrose, 54). He was presumably Thomas de Colville, surnamed 'the Scot', lord of Carsphairn in Galloway, a dependent of Duncan of Carrick. died 1219 l.48 Ricardo Cumin. Philippo de Coleuilla [Latin spelling =Colville or =Caldwell?] Witness to many charters of William I. Example:
Jocelino archdiacono Dunkeldensi
Willelmo de Lindes
Obvious variations in spelling in the charters from modern versions but it is a long bow to take Coleuill to Caldwell. This was the fellow who was surnamed "le Scot" and was important enough to be on 13 charters in this book along with other persons of note - often the same people. He was from Carphairn in Galloway and a dependent of Duncan of Carrick. Earl Duncan was a native Scot and not a Norman so there might be something in the fact that Thomas Colville might have been called "le Scot" to distinguish him from his conntemporary Philip de Colville who may well have been of Norman ancestry. Thomas Colville le Scot was also granted Dalmellington at some stage - this holds well with his vassalage to Duncan of Carrick. It also shows a base at Carsphairn in Galloway which helps with the "Caldwell Legend". He is signing charters with the de Morevilles and may well have been associated with them as well and therefore getting pretty close to Caldwell on the Renfrew border. No flames but just a little smoke. Will keep looking.
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